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IncognitoG's avatar

Morning! Happy fourth Advent Sunday.

It’s 52º here, and 14º back home, per the remote’s temp sensor.

M. Trosino's avatar

Per the mention yesterday of telekinesis and a certain individual's skill sets, are you really sure those temp readings are correct? In fact, can you ever be really, really sure of that again?

Juuusst askin' the question. I don't pretend to, um, know the answer...

CynthiaW's avatar

Good morning. 20s here right now, 40s later. It's Sheldon's birthday. He wants to go out for hamburgers.

M. Trosino's avatar

Might be more entertaining to eat in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGNm7_dvz4

I'm not gonna' say you should have seen this coming, okay?

'Afternoon, Cynthia. Hope y'all have a good time.

CynthiaW's avatar

The hamburgers were pretty good.

Jack's avatar

The good professor, Bret Devereaux, has a new blog post out yesterday about the term “Bread and Circuses”.

https://acoup.blog/2024/12/20/collections-on-bread-and-circuses/

M. Trosino's avatar

That's quite the detailed examination of the origin and meaning of panem et circenses.

Whatever the precise details, I think the more generalized popular meaning works well enough to say - or at least for *me* to say - that in ancient Rome, the folks at least occasionally got some actual bread as well as a show, while we here in modern times with our Neoclassical venues in D.C. get just a 3-ring circus with a bunch of large herbivores running amok for the entertainment of the crowd and the incoming ringmaster, all while making a big stinking mess out of the place.

And my answer to Russell's question is, No, actually. No I'm not...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of_jyeDZ3Sg

Jay Janney's avatar

My oldest sister got sick last night so we cancelled lunch today. We had a fun dinner last night, close to 30 came over my niece from LA came and was thrilled that we brought a sugar cream pie. A good time. We’re on the road home taking a lunch break.

I did get to use the pancake machine this morning! 🤠

CynthiaW's avatar

Sounds fun. I hope your sister feels better soon!

BikerChick's avatar

Thanks for the article, very interesting although I did chuckle a bit at the “human sacrifice and drinking hot chocolate” bit.

CynthiaW's avatar

Thanks for noticing. I did that on purpose, but it's also an actual fact from the archaeologists.

C C Writer's avatar

I will try to offset that by having some hot chocolate while I write my checks to charities on Boxing Day.

BikerChick's avatar

“Showlo coont lay” is what I think the lady said in the beginning. She’s says they are “anticipatory” in that they can predict their owner’s next move. It’s possible they’re telepathic. I’m telling you, “The Telepathy Tapes” will have you thinking twice about your belief in telepathy.

CynthiaW's avatar

Some writers - Jonathan Haidt comes to mind - have explained that our sense perceptions and physical responses are so much faster than our conscious thoughts that you might say "telepathy" would be downstream of connection and communication through bodily senses and "pre-thought" reactions.

In the tradition of Greek philosophy, we put language-based thought or speech at the pinnacle of our ideas of meaning-making and communication, but that's only one way of conceiving of, shall we say, interaction among beings.

Kurt's avatar

I don’t need convincing. Seen it, experienced it. Many times.

The original Optimum.net's avatar

I knew you were going to say that...

M. Trosino's avatar

I may not be telepathic, but I saw this one coming.

CynthiaW's avatar

That would be "precognition," a separate skill from telepathy.

M. Trosino's avatar

I think I've mentioned I was a skilled tradesman?

CynthiaW's avatar

You have mentioned that. Do you have telekinesis, too?

The original Optimum.net's avatar

Oh, yeah? Well, I telepathed it first!

BikerChick's avatar

Reputable breeders don’t “inbreed” they “linebreed.” I have a linebred PWD. https://www.wylanbriar.com/breeding-advice/breeding-inbreeding-linebreeding-and-outcrossing-explained/

CynthiaW's avatar

Thanks, that's informative.

Kurt's avatar

Jingzhou, Hubei….cold here in the Middle Reaches Yangtze River. Not freezing but bone chill damp cold. 2000 year old city, central to Chu culture in the East Zhou Dynasty during the Spring and Autumn and Warring States periods. King of Chu was the last holdout and the final state to fall to Qin Shihuang, “uniting” the entire country. Jingzhou is central in Romance Of The Three Kingdoms, the canonical text of Chinese literature.

Did I use “canonical” correctly? It’s one of a few most important books in Chinese literature.

CynthiaW's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0GVIoSybXc

In case anyone else wondered what Jingzhou, Hubei looks like ...

Kurt's avatar

That’s the developing tourist zone. I’d describe it as the usual charmless post industrial city.

CynthiaW's avatar

There probably aren't any videos of the charmless parts on YouTube.

Kurt's avatar

The museums are very good. Shang Dynasty stuff from 2500 years ago. Pottery, ancient relics and funerary stuff and a remarkable mummy of King Wu of Chu. Chu culture was something, and it was snuffed out by Qin Shihuang, the guy that 'united" all of China into a single country.

Kurt's avatar

What’s funny….hidden away in the charmless parts down some funky alley that looks like you’re on the way to a trash transfer station will be a restaurant with food that is unbelievably good.

You’re right though…no Youtube videos of those places.

CynthiaW's avatar

It's the same here: there's no correlation between how up-market a place looks and how good the food is.

Kurt's avatar

But.... When I said "...on the way to a trash transfer station"....the trash transfer stations in America would appear beautiful compared to here.

Not noted in my descriptions of China are what it looks like outside the glittering metro hot spots. It's just plain filthy dirty WTF is going on here dirty. A rural peasant population is slowly being trained to not toss refuse in the place they are standing, although it still happens. Not that long ago, when a peasant couple with a small baby needed to let that baby do its business, it'd drop it right there on the sidewalk. Some places that are now quite nice river walk type tourist zones used to be the local fecal depository. It was bad.

BikerChick's avatar

“The adjective canonical is applied in many contexts to mean 'according to the canon' – the standard, rule or primary source that is accepted as authoritative for the body of knowledge or literature in that context.” I only hear the term as it applies to Catholic teachings but it seems appropriate in this case.

The original Optimum.net's avatar

Good morning. Cold here--15 degrees. Gonna get colder tonight and tomorrow. The new snow from last night should be light and powdery. Did I mention that its cold?

IncognitoG's avatar

My family here in Palm Beach County are toughing it out as temperatures fell almost all the way down to 50º at sunrise this morning. I’m hoping the locals received ample warnings to bring pets and livestock into their homes so as to spare them the harsh cruelty of Nature’s wrath.

The original Optimum.net's avatar

Oh, the humanity!

M. Trosino's avatar

"I’m hoping the locals received ample warnings to bring pets and livestock into their homes..."

So. Did you telepath them an ample warning or did you let them suffer "the harsh cruelty of Nature's wrath"?

I already know the answer. Just want to get it on the record.

The original Optimum.net's avatar

Way to hoist him on his own petard!

M. Trosino's avatar

Or, as some of the younger folks say... BOOM!?

Brian's avatar

Right before they say "OK boomer."

CynthiaW's avatar

No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow ... somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here! Boom.

CynthiaW's avatar

32 with a high of 45. Sunny. We had a thunderstorm yesterday evening.

IncognitoG's avatar

I’m not sure you can even jump-start an iguana at conditions such as those.

CynthiaW's avatar

I don't think it's quite cold enough for iguanas to fall out of trees on your head.

M. Trosino's avatar

Keeping your hard hat handy, I hope...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD8SxDSKNJ0

IncognitoG's avatar

Such dramatic scenery to our south. I find it breathtaking to consider just how much collective human socio-cultural development was lost as a result of the “Columbian Exchange”, as Charles Mann puts it in describing what happened to the world after Columbus.

Cultural landscapes created by dead and forgotten peoples. But they left us monuments in stone and some hairless dogs to marvel at…

CynthiaW's avatar

Good observations.

I like what you did with the links in the article. Thanks!

IncognitoG's avatar

Avec plaisir.

The original Optimum.net's avatar

I think he was my 7th grade French Teacher!

M. Trosino's avatar

Apparently he didn't cover the dangers of petards very well. Or maybe someone just missed class that day?

CynthiaW's avatar

Did you learn Yiddish from Sholom Aleichem?

The original Optimum.net's avatar

Well done, CW!

And can I get an "Oy" from the congregation!

M. Trosino's avatar

Oymen!

CynthiaW's avatar

It would be nice if we had an Oy! button. Just saying. I know you guys are really busy blowing up terrorists and stuff, but it seems like a simple button should be an easy afternoon's work.